topic Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip in PCs & Accessories

no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

pleibling — Sun, 05 Dec 2004 14:11:26 GMT

hmm. the notebook descritpion show an intel p4 mobile 3.06 chip (type 532).

intel website show:

- mobile cpu
- hyper threading
- advanced intel speedstep technologie

i download the cpu detection tools from intel and this show:

- no mobile cpu
- no hyperthreading
- no advanced inte speedstep technologie

aks your hardware manufacturer.

so i call the sony vaio support, but they can not help me (i think, the person don't know what is hyperhtreading, speedstep and a mobile cpu).

can somebody talk me, how i can activate the hyperhtreading and where i can use the speedstep technologie (i need not all the time many power) and how i can configure mobile cpu options?

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

TygerTyger — Sun, 05 Dec 2004 14:13:55 GMT

Which model of laptop do you have?

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

kee-lo_ — Sun, 05 Dec 2004 15:55:38 GMT

Sounds like you have a desktop CPU in your notebook.
As TT said we need to know the model.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

TygerTyger — Sun, 05 Dec 2004 16:43:09 GMT

I tried to look it up on Sony Style UK but amusingly their site just gave me errors one after the other STILL from when I looked last time. Really, I just can't take them seriously anymore.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

kee-lo_ — Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:42:49 GMT

Tyger a frioend of mine wanted to order a screen and she couldn't because the site had so many errors.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

pleibling — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:06:13 GMT

the laptop is an pcg-k315z the cpu an the cpu is an intel p4 mobile 3.06 cpu (type 532).

the intel tool say its an 532, but not mobile and not speedstep technologie.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

kee-lo_ — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:34:30 GMT

Do you have Sony Notebook Setup installed?

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

pleibling — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:38:54 GMT

yes, i have one partition with preinstalled xp home, and one partition with xp media center 2005. in the home partition is the notebook setup.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

kee-lo_ — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:03:15 GMT

How the heck did you get Windows Media Centre?
That's only distributed by manufacturs.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

pleibling — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:25:46 GMT

i have 3 media center pc (1 aopen ey65, 1 shuttle sb61g2 and the sony vaio), two in original (in germany you can get it over ebay - since mce 2005 you can get it normal at distributors, not only over manufacturer), and one from msdn (i have maps, msdn, technet ...).

i have this configuration with omega radeon drivers (the nromal ati drivers wont work with mce) and a hauppauge usbpvr2 tv card (with active mpeg2 processor).

works fine, but the laptop is very loud.

price laptop 1500¿, media center 2005 119¿, usbpvr2 149¿ and the mce 2003 remote v2 39¿. = 1807¿ for a cool mobile media center.

now i want wo make it quietly (i hope i can down clock the cpu, so that the laptop is quiet at normal working or tv watching - the mpeg 2 chip of the tv box render the stream). thats why i buy an laptop with intel cpu type 532 - but it cannot use speedstep and intel utility says no speedstep system.

look at this:

intel cpu detection tool (show thats the cpu support hyper threading):

but the tool does not detect hyper threading and speedstep:

that is the laptop cpu (no hyperthreading):

and that is a normal hyper threading cpu:

this is the overview from intel for this cpu:

sony desciption (thats tell, that is a mobile cpu):

how can i use hyper threading and speedstep???

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

kee-lo_ — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:53:33 GMT

Wow sounds like you have some great PCs
I would take this up with Sony, it's clear as day you were supposed to have HT and mobile CPU

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

pleibling — Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:56:20 GMT

sound good. tell me what sony says.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

feederfan — Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:28:41 GMT

The mobile chips do not have hyperthreading. I have the Intel Mobile 2.8Ghz chip in my k series and it is the same. a desktop P4 of the same speed would have hyperthreading. There is no way you could have a desktop chip in your laptop, you would only get about 45mins battery life for a start!

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

pleibling — Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:53:19 GMT

intel p4 cpu with 533 mhz frontsidebus has hyperthreading from 3.06 ghz, only intel p4 cpu with 800 mhz front side bus has hyperthreading at 2.6 ghz.

in the answers before you see that the cpu has mobile (tells sony product page) and has hyperthreading (tells intel page).

is it possible that it is a chipset problem? i found an information "hyperthreading must support from chipset, bios, operating system and cpu". on all my desktop computers with mce 2005 p4/2.6ghz/800mhz fsb and p4/3.06ghz/533 mhz on intel 865 chipsets and one small business server 2003 with dual xeon 2.6 ghz on intel 7502 serverchipset - thats all works fine with hyperthreading.

but the laptop has an ati igp chipset - i think this support not hyperthreading. could it be???

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

feederfan — Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:05:34 GMT

yes, thats probably it. Does the pentium 4 sticker on your laptop have the letters HT on the top right hand corner? If not then your processor is not HT compatible.

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

Jay1 — Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:06:37 GMT

Hi

I got the k315s which i was not happy at all as i thought it had hyperthreading. I phoned sony up, they knew as much as i did. they said it does not have hyperthreading.

http://www.intel.com/products/notebook/processors/mobilepentium4/index.htm

Hyper-Threading Technology requires a computer system with an Intel® Pentium® 4 processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology and an HT Technology enabled chipset, BIOS and operating system. Performance will vary depending on the specific hardware and software you use. See http://www.intel.com/info/hyperthreading/ for more information including details on which processors support HT Technology.

If anyone knows how to upgrade my laptop to HTT please let me know

I

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

Jay1 — Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:11:25 GMT

check this site out

http://support.intel.com/support/platform/ht/upgrade.htm

Re: no hyperthreading and no mobile chip

stallarddk — Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:47:31 GMT

This all sounds a bit worrying, I have a k315M and must say the performance is quite bad when compared to that of my previous Compaq (AMD XP 2400+, same amount of RAM and same Graphics card) notebook.

I was reading a post stating that these machines could not have a desktop chip otherwise you would only get about 45 mins battery life, well I have not even had an hour out of the battery (this is using a wireless card to access broadband so not too sure wether that will kill the battery).

If it is the case that we do not have the 532 P4 chip then surely we have the right to get a full refund on the machine under the sales description act??

This is my first VAIO and although I am impressed with the packaged software the performance is a disappointment, not too sure whether that is due to the hard drive, processor or a number of things...:smileyconfused: